T-X - Volume I

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  1. Stephen Charter Lounger

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    cr2701 wrote 3 hours earlier »
    I have a question about the TX and maybe someone here who has it can answer it for me. I have a problem with the light-up function of the statue, the statue on its own works fine and lights up if you put a 9volt battery to the connectors on the foot and the base has power when it is plugged in as I tested it with a voltage meter. The problem is that when the statue is on the base and I switch it on it doesn't light up, I have tried moving it to find the so-called sweet spot but with no luck. The prongs in the base seem to be working fine also, is there something I am not doing? Any help or info on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

    I suppose the points might be dirty and not completing the circuit. I don't know what's suitable for cleaning them though - hopefully someone here who's more knowledgeable on electrics might chip in.
     
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  2. cr2701 Pub Talker

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    Stephen wrote 17 hours earlier »
    cr2701 wrote 3 hours earlier »
    I have a question about the TX and maybe someone here who has it can answer it for me. I have a problem with the light-up function of the statue, the statue on its own works fine and lights up if you put a 9volt battery to the connectors on the foot and the base has power when it is plugged in as I tested it with a voltage meter. The problem is that when the statue is on the base and I switch it on it doesn't light up, I have tried moving it to find the so-called sweet spot but with no luck. The prongs in the base seem to be working fine also, is there something I am not doing? Any help or info on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

    I suppose the points might be dirty and not completing the circuit. I don't know what's suitable for cleaning them though - hopefully someone here who's more knowledgeable on electrics might chip in.

    I cleaned the contacts with contact cleaner but it still had no effect, I even took the contact plate out of the foot and pressed it down on the prongs to make sure it was contacting it but still nothing. It is a very strange and frustrating problem :baffled:
     
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  3. bioman Demands Audiences

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    Have you try only with battery or adaptator sector or both?
    First time i received my TX i thought light up not work...
    i move his leg a little bit and found the right position and it works
    I think i even hear a little "click" sound of the contact on his foot
     
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  4. cr2701 Pub Talker

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    bioman wrote 1 hour earlier »
    Have you try only with battery or adaptator sector or both?
    First time i received my TX i thought light up not work...
    i move his leg a little bit and found the right position and it works
    I think i even hear a little "click" sound of the contact on his foot

    I have tried it both with batteries and with power cord. It's very frustrating as I know they both work but just not together.
     
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  5. Stephen Charter Lounger

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    I will email CBD member Dirt Torpedo (Martin) and ask him to offer his opinion. He's good with electrics and fixed one of the T-Xs with a similar issue.
    Will write to him now for you.
     
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  6. cr2701 Pub Talker

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    Stephen wrote 1 hour earlier  » 
    I will email CBD member Dirt Torpedo (Martin) and ask him to offer his opinion. He's good with electrics and fixed one of the T-Xs with a similar issue.
    Will write to him now for you.


    Thanks Stephen I really appreciate it.
    Update: The LED's are fried on the statue as I tried to light them with a 9volt battery and they turned blue then orange and now nothing so this thing is now a very expensive paperweight. Its a shame as I had the base signed by Kristanna Loken at FACTS convention in Belgium :angry:
     
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  7. Mirak Verbal Diarrhoea

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    You should have cleaned the contact surfaces( on the statue & on the base) with some very thin sanding paper and then sprayed them with some contactspray , but I guess this is useless now .....
     
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  8. cr2701 Pub Talker

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    Mirak wrote 4 minutes earlier »
    You should have cleaned the contact surfaces( on the statue & on the base) with some very thin sanding paper and then sprayed them with some contactspray , but I guess this is useless now .....

    You'r right it's pointless now but I did clean the contacts with wire wool and they were perfectly clean. I am so annoyed at myself for my stupidity
     
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    So sorry to hear this.
     
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    Damn, too late to reply - really sorry to read this.
    By putting the battery on directly you bypass the resistors in the base so the load is too high and the LEDs will glow brighter than normal then pop.
    The fault was probably the pins on the base compressing down and sticking when the statue was put in place. I had that problem on the Sideshow 1:2 T800. I ended up sticking some WD40 down the pin [A tiny amount on a earbud]
    Replacing the LEDs in some context might be possible but it would need someone like Raf to explain if it can be taken apart. Running wires wouldn't look out of place as the T-X already has them running up the legs and torso, problem would be getting the LEDs in the correct position but worse case it would be just a constant glow instead of the strobe effect. Don't give up hope just yet.
     
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    dirt torpedo wrote 42 minutes earlier »
    Damn, too late to reply - really sorry to read this.
    By putting the battery on directly you bypass the resistors in the base so the load is too high and the LEDs will glow brighter than normal then pop.
    The fault was probably the pins on the base compressing down and sticking when the statue was put in place. I had that problem on the Sideshow 1:2 T800. I ended up sticking some WD40 down the pin [A tiny amount on a earbud]
    Replacing the LEDs in some context might be possible but it would need someone like Raf to explain if it can be taken apart. Running wires wouldn't look out of place as the T-X already has them running up the legs and torso, problem would be getting the LEDs in the correct position but worse case it would be just a constant glow instead of the strobe effect. Don't give up hope just yet.

    That's what happens when someone who has no clue about electronics messes around with things, if only I had held of to see if someone had a solution. It's my own fault now I am left with a nice statue but no light-up feature which is what this statue is about. I hope there may be some way to take this apart and replace the LEDs , if not then I can keep it as a reminder not to mess around with things I know nothing about. Expensive lesson learned :doh:
     
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    Boy that is bad news and sad , to be honest that is one question I had always asked myself, what would I do if the tx or endo lights burn out , and I have no clue but to maybe pay cm to fix them for me , as I would not dare cut Into these prices , especially the tx
     
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  13. dirt torpedo Pub Talker

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    I've been looking at my T-X since you posted and relighting the body shouldn't be a problem as the LEDs are inside the metal torso. It would need the new wiring spliced into the existing one with a bit extra for the new LEDS. It'll take some testing for the correct positioning and will still strobe etc and if done correctly will be hard to notice
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    The lucky thing is the T-X body plates are off the body so there's room inbetween for the new loom. Actually now I've looked at it I might try to light her weapon arm up.
    The problem is the head. To me it looks like the side of the head would need to be removed. Maybe CM can help with that bit?
     
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  14. Lars Keymaster Staff Member

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    Yeah don't give up. Maybe it is a chance to turn it into something even better if you want to put in the effort.
     
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    rrjrstatueman wrote 1 hour earlier »
    Boy that is bad news and sad , to be honest that is one question I had always asked myself, what would I do if the tx or endo lights burn out , and I have no clue but to maybe pay cm to fix them for me , as I would not dare cut Into these prices , especially the tx

    Will CM do repairs on the older maquettes?
     
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    Patriot666 wrote 5 hours earlier »
    rrjrstatueman wrote 1 hour earlier »
    Boy that is bad news and sad , to be honest that is one question I had always asked myself, what would I do if the tx or endo lights burn out , and I have no clue but to maybe pay cm to fix them for me , as I would not dare cut Into these prices , especially the tx

    Will CM do repairs on the older maquettes?

    I really don't know , but if you bought them from them I'm sure they would be willing to help. I know I would ask if that happened to one of mine even If I would have to pay for the services
     
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    dirt torpedo wrote 12 hours earlier »
    Damn, too late to reply - really sorry to read this.
    By putting the battery on directly you bypass the resistors in the base so the load is too high and the LEDs will glow brighter than normal then pop.
    The fault was probably the pins on the base compressing down and sticking when the statue was put in place. I had that problem on the Sideshow 1:2 T800. I ended up sticking some WD40 down the pin [A tiny amount on a earbud]
    Replacing the LEDs in some context might be possible but it would need someone like Raf to explain if it can be taken apart. Running wires wouldn't look out of place as the T-X already has them running up the legs and torso, problem would be getting the LEDs in the correct position but worse case it would be just a constant glow instead of the strobe effect. Don't give up hope just yet.

    Hi Martin, just curious but if you put a higher voltage AC adaptor like Greg did with his T-X to get the LEDs to work would that be safe since you would still be working through the base?
    I see how attaching the 9V directly to the leads of the feet would burn out the LEDs but now the resistors in the base will protect against that?
    The way I display my Cinemaquettes, using the AC adaptor with wire is impossible anyway so I just use batteries and switch them out once a year but curious about this.
    Seems like there are widespread issues with the T-X electrical hookup such that most work with batteries but precious few are wired correctly in the base to accept the standard AC adaptor they include with the T-X.
    Thanks!
     
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  18. dfchang813 Smooth Conversationalist

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    Stephen wrote 1 week earlier »
    rrjrstatueman wrote 1 hour earlier »
    Hey Steve did you take out the batteries, and how were they ,were they not leaking or coroded

    I didn't take the batteries out Raf. Mine have been in since August 2007 and still work. If the batteries in your T-X still work they can't be corroded. Yet. :freezing:

    Steve, a point of clarification. When you tried the AC Adaptor with your T-X, did you first remove all the batteries first?
    If not, how can you be certain which power supply takes precedence, the AC Adaptor or the batteries still in position in the base?
    I know with mine, I tried to test the AC adaptor by taking out all the batteries first and then using ONLY the AC Adaptor and it was definitely a no go. Put the batteries back in and I was back in business.
    However, I also suspect that the AC Adaptor I got with the T-X was defective to begin with because I tried it with my T-800 and it didn't work . . . but when I used the AC adaptor that came with the T-800, my endoskeleton's eyes lit up fine.
    I haven't bothered trying the T-800 AC Adaptor with the T-X because it is such a pain in the butt to take out the batteries. You have to remove the T-X, place her in a safe place, unscrew the tiny screws holding the two plates in place, get the 6 batteries out (not an easy task as they are wedged in pretty tight) etc, etc.
    Then of course, I read that there were wiring issues in many of the T-X bases so that the AC Adaptor even if perfect won't work anyway!
    Not sure what to think of Greg's experiments with the high voltage Adaptors. Should the resistors in the base protect the T-X LEDs so that no matter the voltage, only so much will be allowed through? Or is it possible to overwhelm the resistors and then pop the T-X LEDs anyway ala what happened with cr2701?
    Guess I'm glad I'm forced to use batteries regardless to display mine appropriately . . .
     
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    Mine didn't work with the batteries or the power lead, I tried the power lead on my T-800 and it worked fine so it wasn't the power lead that was faulty. Anyway I am going to have a look at it when I get more time and see if its possible to take it apart as I would think when they made them they would have to wire them after they were cast as it would be pretty difficult any other way. I have an electrician friend who will hopefully be able to rewire it if it is possible.
     
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    dfchang813 wrote 4 hours earlier  » 
    Steve, a point of clarification. When you tried the AC Adaptor with your T-X, did you first remove all the batteries first?
    If not, how can you be certain which power supply takes precedence, the AC Adaptor or the batteries still in position in the base?


    When the adapter is plugged in the batteries are by-passed, regardless of whether the power socket is switched on (in the UK we have on/off switches for our sockets unlike the USA).
    I proved this to myself by first running the lights with power to the adapter. Then with the adapter still plugged in I turned the power off and the T-X didn't light.
    So you don't need to remove the batteries to use the adapter.
     
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