Second thoughts after selling CM's?

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  1. bioman Demands Audiences

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    would like to know those who sell some or all cinemaquette...if they regret it?
    because for me if i sell cinemaquette i will stop collectibles...
    i agree its not perfect and expensive, very long wait... 1 piece per year...but nothing is better on the market than cinemaquette...
     
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    No regrets here after selling my CM Endoskeleton, although I collect other lines. I have enjoyed getting new pieces on the shelf rather than looking at the same piece forever. There are some amazing statues and busts to be had at far less cost than CM.
     
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    zhong wrote 8 hours earlier »
    because for me if i sell cinemaquette i will stop collectibles...

    Yes that's pretty much where I am now.
     
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    zhong wrote 11 hours earlier »
    I agree its not perfect and expensive, very long wait... 1 piece per year...but nothing is better on the market than cinemaquette...

    If Cinemaquette stopped producing statues Zhong would this make you more inclined to sell?
    I wonder if the lack of new product influenced Enzo in some way.
     
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    zhong wrote 10 hours earlier »
    would like to know those who sell some or all cinemaquette...if they regret it?
    because for me if i sell cinemaquette i will stop collectibles...
    i agree its not perfect and expensive, very long wait... 1 piece per year...but nothing is better on the market than cinemaquette...

    I sold all my cinemaquettes and never regret it ever since.Always wanted something "special" in my collection and thought for a moment Cinemaquette could fulfill this need but as time went by the satisfaction dissappeared somehow...I guess mainly because of not seeing the movie characters they needed to represent.I know,it's a terrible affliction if you're hang up on likeness accuracy,lol.And as I have said before,at $2000 it simply needs to be THE perfect representation of the character.
    Patriot666 wrote 9 hours earlier »
    There are some amazing statues and busts to be had at far less cost than CM.

    Agreed.And in that price range we are even talking very limited commission pieces.
     
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    Yes agree with likeness its not perfect and price a bit expensive...
    but when i compare now with LSF and cinemaquette $2000 both
    Cinemaquette is much a better deal...
    Cinemaquette with their silicon and hair is a work of art and very limited too
    and there is only one compagny who do this...so we cant compare with other...
    If other compagny do silicon in 1/3 scale and better than cinemaquette i will be happy :)
    Enzo you dont want wait until comic con to know what is the next cinemaquette? :naughty:
     
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    Stephen wrote 52 minutes earlier »
    zhong wrote 11 hours earlier »
    I agree its not perfect and expensive, very long wait... 1 piece per year...but nothing is better on the market than cinemaquette...

    If Cinemaquette stopped producing statues Zhong would this make you more inclined to sell?
    I wonder if the lack of new product influenced Enzo in some way.

    I really dont know...
    Maybe our hope is Raf ;)
    1 custom project per year ;)
     
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    Will I regret it, I don't know. All I can say is when I starting taking the pieces out and taking pictures of them with the he natural light coming through. I was reminded of just how very special cm is, the intricate detail on pieces like Aragon and his real chain mail. The indy with his solid metal gun, all leather pouches etc, man these things are just amazing. You forget about things like the real beard the clothing that is tailored etc.. I will probably regret certain pieces and maybe the collection as a whole. The thing I struggle with the most is, if I ever want to acquire one of the pieces I sell again it will be near impossible and very expensive. I'm beside myself about it. But, I keep looking forward to my dream which is lifesize. Like I have explained before all of this collecting has brought me to lifesize. I have been waiting years and years for the right pieces to come out. Didn't like what was previously released in that 1/1 market. Sideshow seems to have nailed it for me in the Star Wars realm. So when I think about the beautiful lifesize pieces I can have in my collection it gets me excited for collecting again, cause as you guy previously said the lack of release and long waiting and or characters I am not interested in have definitely had something to do with it. And to answer your question about new releases coming out for cm. if I like the character I will still buy. I'm done with cm just selling off the pieces that I can live without and keeping the ones I want (hopefully).
     
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  9. Otto Verbal Diarrhoea

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    Good luck in your new endeavour Enz , I think as collectors our taste in collectables does change as it happened to me and other people I know .
     
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    Most likely, if CM had made the characters that I really wanted, it would be safe to say that most, not all, but certainly most of my collection would be CM1/3 scale.
    The sculpt, the boxing, the scale size, are all dynamite. The scale size makes such an impression without it being over big in size.
    I have been so impressed with them I bought characters I never thought I would buy. Of course, now that I have narrowed down my collection, I will be keeping only a few CM's and thinking of purchasing one more.
    Truly, I really believe I would not be buying much more if they made the characters I really wanted.
    With one exception to this ... I would continue collecting the bronze statues so long as I can afford to do so.
     
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    zhong wrote 1 day earlier  » 
    because for me if i sell cinemaquette i will stop collectibles...

    Yep, that.
    CM's are the mainstay of my collection. Quality, coherency, the "right" scale... it's all there. Yes, the monster side of things is superior to the humans. Alien approved by Giger, T-800 approved by Stan Winston, Creature and Predator (Vader is more of a human in my book) sculpted by Wang and all that in one harmonious setup? No, it won't and can't happen again.
    The humans have their fair share of problems and personally I'm not too happy with the choice of characters, hence it's possible for me to sell. Regardless, where are those alternatives you keep bringing up? Nowhere to be seen, because they do not exist for scaled statues. Some of you may remember back when Erick Sosa joined CBD to advertise commissions (aka busts). When we asked for scaled statues, he was gone. That about sums it up as far as the motivation of custom artist goes in this segment.
     
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    Lars wrote 1 hour earlier  » 
    zhong wrote 1 day earlier  » 
    because for me if i sell cinemaquette i will stop collectibles...

    CM's are the mainstay of my collection. Quality, coherency, the "right" scale... it's all there. Yes, the monster side of things is superior to the humans. Alien approved by Giger, T-800 approved by Stan Winston, Creature and Predator (Vader is more of a human in my book) sculpted by Wang and all that in one harmonious setup? No, it won't and can't happen again.

    I mainly agree with you Lars.It need to be said the monster sculptors all went with a certain artistic interpretation.Nothing wrong with that but personally I want to see the monster as it appeared in the movie,simple.Wang sculpted the Predator with a mindset how he would have liked it to look today and it's obvious the T-800 & Alien have been idealised aswell.Still,this doesn't take away from the beauty of these sculpts.TX & creature (except for the colour) look to be the most faithfull ones in that regard.
    Yep,it will be near impossible to come close to the quality of these releases,let alone to equal them.
     
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  13. phil the sixth Charter Lounger

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    Lars wrote 1 hour earlier  » 
    Regardless, where are those alternatives you keep bringing up? Nowhere to be seen, because they do not exist for scaled statues. Some of you may remember back when Erick Sosa joined CBD to advertise commissions (aka busts). When we asked for scaled statues, he was gone. That about sums it up as far as the motivation of custom artist goes in this segment.

    Agreed,lol...busts are all we have in that particular segment...
     
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    cinemaquette humans with silicon and real hair is the reason i fell in love with this compagny
    i agree that likeness is not perfect but when you see the quality the details...is really a work of art
    i understand that some (Phil...) want the same caracter saw in the movie
    for me, i prefer a representation of the caracter even idealised more beautiful...prefer the CM predator than the predator in the movie...dont really like the yoda puppet in the 80'movie...i prefer a handsome yoda :p
    for sure if you compare a picture of the movie and CM, they are different...but its not life size bust...its a representation of the caracter...
     
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  15. phil the sixth Charter Lounger

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    I appreciate that Zhong and I can easily understand the enchantment.Looking at it from your perspective I agree...cinemaquettes are pieces of art.I have mostly been impressed with the delivered quality all around,although there were the usual minor flaws one can expect (but shouldn't,especially not at $2000 :headbash: ) from mass produced collectibles.I had two Predators and both had small chips(tooth,armor),the Alien was missing some paint on the head,a chip on the chin of one of my T-800's,a thick layer of gloss sticking out on the right eye of Godfather.All things I didn't see right away upon receivement and which made the decision to sell my cm's that much easier.
    Now,in regards to future releases,if they can get every single aspect right,and they can stay true to their noble idea of 'stunningly accurate' movie character representations, they will get my money again.
     
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    philippe wrote 21 hours earlier  » 
    I mainly agree with you Lars.It need to be said the monster sculptors all went with a certain artistic interpretation.


    Style over accuracy, sure, but what style!
     
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  17. phil the sixth Charter Lounger

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    Indeed.Amazing achievements in our hobby. :yes:
     
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    Just reflecting on a few of the posts so far here.
    It's easy to overlook the details of these pieces when you live amongst them on a daily basis. Indeed it's only on the very rare occasions these days that I remove them from their cases for photographs and reviews that I reappreciate the design and workmanship that goes into each one.
    That Cinemaquette were able to roll the pieces up in a package that generates a feeling of opening a piece of the very movie, was a miracle in itself - especially considering the penny-pinching trend of packagin that existed up to that point. Sure it's ultimately what it looks like on the shelf that's important, but first impressions count, and Cinemaquette realised that experiencing a $2,000 statue started right from the very moment you peeled the sellotape off the carton.
    I find myself agreeing with Lars when he says that this will never happen again. In many ways companies now are regressing - especially in terms of materials (Blitzway being a good example). Regardless of your view of silicone, Cinemaquette have remained true to this approach and consistent to scale. I also believe they've pushed the envelope in terms of quality control
    I do understand the urge collectors have to churn their collections from time to time, or as in Enzo's case, radically shift its focus. Ultimately I'm too far emotionally invested in the pieces to sell any of them in favour of other collectibles. The sum total of everything I've experienced collecting and displaying the line - which includes Comic Cons and my relationships with everyone here, is far and above anything I could possibly hope to be offered from other pieces - lifesize or otherwise.
     
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    Stephen wrote 4 hours earlier  » 
    ... I find myself agreeing with Lars when he says that this will never happen again. In many ways companies now are regressing - especially in terms of materials (Blitzway being a good example). Regardless of your view of silicone, Cinemaquette have remained true to this approach and consistent to scale. I also believe they've pushed the envelope in terms of quality control.
    ... Ultimately I'm too far emotionally invested in the pieces to sell any of them in favour of other collectibles.


    Steve, you touched on a good point which I can relate to on a few of my CM's ... the emotional investment of these pieces escalates and can even go so far as to "derail" a collector from the theme that a collector was really intending in the first place.
    This is what happened to me. I ended up buying CM's that were really what I was not interested in their characters ... because of what CM does, the scale, the packaging, this forum, etc.
    Even now, I am Terminator fan, Predator fan, Alien fan but no where near others to the point I would actually collect these pieces as never mind the money I spent on them ... yet I am keeping them in my collection, while I find a time to sell the others I bought which really I shouldn't of (Inidana Jones, Bruce Lee,) ... and did because I was emotionally wanted CM!
    And Aargon? Chee I haven't even seen the movie and I have this in CM, :headbash:
    The CM Superman ... definitely in my theme and very happy I bought it!
     
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  20. phil the sixth Charter Lounger

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    Greg,no way you didn't see the LOTR trilogy! :shock:
     
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