Paint fix-ups for the Silicone pieces

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  1. Lars Keymaster Staff Member

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    Enzucho wrote 26 minutes earlier »
    I do have a question for anyone who know, what about makeup on the cm;'s silicon face, just to livin it up a bit, do u think it would harm the silicon?


    Let's have a new topic for this one, in fact I was contemplating about this as well. You know, add some more shades in the face area or give Jack a little more emphasis for the eye makeup.

    Until I started buying CM's, I was kind of used to doing these things myself with some Games Workshop equipment. But that's different with the silicone of course.
    I think there are special silicone colors which themselves have a high degree of silicone additives.
    Maybe it would be wise to ask the opinion of people that work in silicone like Mike Hill or Dullam/Causey?

    In case you haven't watched it you can see how it's done in the Kazuhiro Video
    for Bruce Lee from around 1:30min.
     
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    great thanks for starting this topic, I am curious to hear answers I would love to add as u say emphasis to some of my cm's
     
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    I have seen thT VIDEO A COUPLE TIMES, IT IS GOOD STUFF
     
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    So I did some research on Clubhouse and elsewhere and from the info I got I would say that you could do modest changes like using some extra eyeliner for Jack if you really wanted to but all in all it's suboptimal at best.
    The reason being that, as with most resin pieces as well, the paintjob is usually sealed with a finisher. Now with silicon pieces, this is done by applying clear silicone spray so that the silicone can "breathe" through the layers of paint. Assuming that CM uses a similar technique, you would effectively paint on top of the finishing layer.
     
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    Now some info on the paint and painting technique:
    Mike Hill stated that he's using Oil Colors (Winsor&Newton) mixed with silicone chaulking (for the silicone component) and Naptha as a thinning substance. This mix seems to be common practise, though some might substitude the basic chaulking with stuff like PlatSil Gel 10 such as this guy. His head is mostly painted with airbrush technique while the guy at Makeup-FX (the URL Mirak posted some days ago for the hair punching) does his paintjob by hand.
    I think both yield a pretty good overall result.
    Airbrush:
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    Handpainting:
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    Both are painted in multiple layers and then sealed with a coat of clear silicone and then Cabo dusted to eliminate the shine.
     
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    Hey Phil, when you get the chance, could you maybe ask your painter how he would go about patching paint spots on silicone casts ex post? Thanks.
     
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    I will ask him.No problemo.
     
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    Nice would really help, I still want to know if you able to use make up on silicon?
     
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    Enzucho wrote 11 hours earlier »
    Nice would really help, I still want to know if you able to use make up on silicon?

    Are you thinking in terms of applying actual (FX) makeup products like Rouge, Powder and so forth or "simulating" those effects with oil paint techniques as were originally applied to the maquettes?
     
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    I was thinking of special effects makeup, I know it would only be temparary but I really do not toucht the faces of my human cm so, i am wondering how long it would last on there and if it would dry out the silicon?
     
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    I think it's really hard to make a general assertion. Guess it would depend on what kind of makeup is used among many other things. If you would ask CM they would probably suggest not to do it, but who knows how long silicone like that would last even under "perfect" conditions?
     
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    I think I may try a lil bit of that powder that comes woth the human CM's on my GF, cause I am not extremely happy about the blackish spots in and around his hairline, although not appearent in photos, it is very appearent in real time specially int he right lighting, maybe I can tone it down some with the powder,
    Has anyone here used the powder before? if so how does it work?
     
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    Enzucho wrote 14 minutes earlier »
    I think I may try a lil bit of that powder that comes woth the human CM's on my GF, cause I am not extremely happy about the blackish spots in and around his hairline, although not appearent in photos, it is very appearent in real time specially int he right lighting, maybe I can tone it down some with the powder,
    Has anyone here used the powder before? if so how does it work?

    What is the cause of the black spots?
    I have not used the powder at all. My understanding is that it is used to give the silicone its fresh look - will it cover blemishes I wonder? :hmm:
     
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    I dont know what the cause is, I believe it was used as like some type of powder for the crevesis to bringt out wrinkles and such they just over did it on mine next to and in the hairline
     
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    The powder won't cover up anything , it's some kind of transparent powder.
     
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    Mirak wrote 16 minutes earlier »
    The powder won't cover up anything , it's some kind of transparent powder.

    I thought as much. To restore the translucance? Have you ever used it Mirak?
     
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    It does restore the gloss which can get lost when you touch a certain spot on the silicon repeatedly or, worth, rub on it.
    From todays perspective I think that's what had happened to the nose of my first Jack Sparrow and the powder could have fixed at least that issue.
     
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    jet_force_juno wrote 23 minutes earlier »
    Mirak wrote 16 minutes earlier »
    The powder won't cover up anything , it's some kind of transparent powder.


    I thought as much. To restore the translucance? Have you ever used it Mirak?


    I used it when I got my T-850 .
     
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    I think, for the safety of some, it's better that we had no female CM's so far.
     
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    Mirak wrote 2 hours earlier »
    jet_force_juno wrote 23 minutes earlier »
    Mirak wrote 16 minutes earlier »
    The powder won't cover up anything , it's some kind of transparent powder.


    I thought as much. To restore the translucance? Have you ever used it Mirak?


    How did it work mirak, any suggestions?
    I used it when I got my T-850 .
     
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